The interface board, which plugs into an S slot, includes a parallel printer port, sockets for up to 32K of memory and a floppy disk Interface. Orangethorpe, Bldg. F , Anaheim , C A The program on the screen is just one of many routines in a complete energy savings program developed by Mickey Naumovich.
The package was developed for helping home, apartment and industrial builders calculate energy-saving steps and savings. The program asks for such things as the type of walls, the amount of space between the walls, wall thickness, the size of the building, types and number of windows and doors and more. Since then he's gone on to form his own company and invented a new product for reducing air infiltration: Thermo- Brite.
Parsec Energy Research, Parkford Dr. Drop them a line and ask about their system, which they call "The Source. Triple Drive available for K bytes. Quad Drive Units available. It's an improved, up-to-date version of the original Intercolor microcom- puter.
The was first made under the Intercolor name back in the days when Altairs and IMSAIs were all the rage, but Intercolor decided to con- centrate on OEMs and business customers and so it formed Compu- color to make personal computers. In the past year or two the market for graphics-oriented microcomputers has exploded and Compucolor has had some time to develop a new model. So it was with special interest that we tested the Compucolor II.
The system is based on the microprocessor, which seems a little odd since there are newer, more powerful micropro- cessors than the which also enable less complicated electronic designs. The concept behind the design is very good. There's no tangle of cables running from one component to another, just a ribbon cable. Because there's a built-in color monitor, you don't need to monopolize the family TV set for hours, and the display is better. Regular TV's intentionally blur Compucolor II Steve North and soften images, but computers don't need compromises that normal broadcasting does.
The Compu- color's special video monitor provides much sharper graphics and more bril- liant colors. Compucolor also deserves credit for foregoing audio cassettes in favor of floppy disks. Audio cassettes are plagued with loading problems, slow data transfer rate and can't handle serious data file manipulation.
A floppy disk allows you to load programs in a second or two and keep data files on-line for quick access and updates. The tradeoff is that the price of a basic Compucolor II is much higher than that of a cassette-based TRS or Apple because you pay for the disk drive right away. A Compu- color formatted disk has a capacity of 51 K, which isn't exactly impressive, though they brag that you can flip the disk over and use the other side. This does not give you more storage actu- ally on-line because the computer can't access both sides simultan- eously, nor do most floppy disk media manufacturers sell single- sided disks for dual-sided applica- tions.
A further minus is that the disks are nonstandard and must be purchased from Compucolor be- cause, ha, ha, you don't get a format- ting program with the computer. The concept of not bothering with cas- settes at all and including a disk drive with the computer is still good, though the price difference won't help sell any computers. A second disk and a printer can be plugged into the basic unit. The keyboard comes in three ver- sions. The least expensive 71 key model is probably adequate for most users, though the other two key- boards have some nice extras such as a numeric keypad, special color and graphics control keys and a BASIC command key so you can enter BASIC keywords quickly.
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The keyboard is apparently shared with an Intercolor model as some of the legends on the keys have no apparent significance. There are some other keys which have purposes not yet fathomed by the reviewer. Most important, the Compucolor II is capable of some pretty spiffy graphics. It has eight colors black, blue, red, violet, green, light blue, yellow, and white. Points are plotted on a x grid, while the characters are displayed ina16x64or 32 x 64 format. There are two charac- ter sizes, one twice as big as the other, but both are all caps, a disap- pointment on a highly graphics- oriented machine.
In place of the lower-case characters there are special graphics characters, such as chess men and portions of geometric shapes. Further, the characters can be set individually to blink. The graphics and characters can be mixed on the display and each block may be programmed for foreground and background color. By comparison, the Apple II has 16 colors in low-resolution mode, but plots only on a coarse 40 x 48 grid , and graphics and characters can't be mixed. In high-resolution mode the Apple has denser graphics than the Compucolor, but only four colors black, white, green, and violet and text can't be mixed with graphics, either.
The Compucolor isn't the ulti- mate in personal computer graphics but it's one of the best-performing ones we've tested so far. A handy argument to remember next time someone knocks bit personal computers with 24 meg of memory addressing space. More complex graphics are controlled through the PLOT statement. PLOT is followed by numeric codes range which are apparently just fed to an internal graphics processor.
Thus, you pro- gram plot codes to control blinking, character sizes, vector plotting and bar graphs, etc. This is a very flexible approach but it's unwieldy since you have to memorize plot codes or refer to a list, and it doesn't make readable programs. This works, but making one verb do the work of five isn't people-oriented. Lurking elsewhere in the 32K is a File Control System— a small DOS for listing directories, purging files, copying files from one drive to another and the like. The color and graphics are still avail- able by transmitting special codes from the main computer.
An AUTO key on the keyboard automatically loads and runs a menu program from disk, very handy for idiot-proof turnkey operation. Usually you can get from one pro- gram or function to another with only one or two keystrokes. It may be unfair to chide Compucolor for something that IBM has gotten away with for years, but shouldn't personal computers be different?
That reminds me of an ugly rumour going around that a very big microcomputer software house is coming out with a disk operating system inspired by IBM's JCL. Just when you thought it was safe to have a computer Documentation The documentation that comes with the unit is an 18 page booklet, chock full of at least one or two helpful hints.
It's best used as a quick reference for commands, statements, and error messages. The real manual called a Programming Manual is over pages long and includes helpful information for beginners and experts both. It also includes details about machine- level programming, but probably not enough to get started without some additional information. But you have to purchase this manual separately from the computer. Perhaps Compu- color had in mind that their computer would be bought by users, not pro- gramming types. Applications Our Compucolor came with a number of "Sof-Disks," each pre-pro- grammed with several games or applications.
In general, the canned programs were well above average in quality. There are also some useful programs for forms, computer-assisted instruction and financial planning. There are over nine disks already, so this is probably the beginning of a good library of soft- ware. However, there are very few second-sources of Compucolor ap- plication software at th is stage. Overall In general, you can't help but admire an idea like the Compucolor II, but the overall impression is that they had a lot of outstanding ideas but didn't quite pull them all together.
Also, sound- making hardware would be a major plus. The Compucolor II has a lot of different capabilities and functions and programs inside, but they're not presented to the user in an easy-to- understand manner. I'd have to admit that I think disks and ROMs don't mix. As soon as you add disks, the ROMs tape up valuable space that could be used for RAM and interfere with a well-organized disk operating sys- tem.
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It includes all sockets, power supply regulator, heat sink, filtering and decoupling components. Power Supply. Stale Zip Compucolor II, con't A system like that would easily be worth twice the present price of the Compu- color, though it would be out of the league of inexpensive personal com- puters. In brief, the Compucolor II is worth your consideration if you're especially interested in high-quality color graphics, and don't need the reassurance of all the TRS owners on your block to know you bought the computer that's right for you.
Our observations indicate that while in most ways a beautiful system, the Compucolor has several idiosyncrasies that may prove to be annoying. Also, the absense of a built-in speaker for music or sound effects is a bit surprising on a system in this price range. Nevertheless, the kids love the spectacular color graphics and, even- tually, have learned to adjust to the above idiosyncrasies. Univ of Pennsylvania, which is 1 block from the Philadelphia Civic Center. Doors open at 6 30 P. Featuring; Live demonstrations and perform- ances by leading computer musicians.
A stereo record from last year's music festival will be on sale at the show Daytime seminars and demonstrations at the Philadelphia Civic Center all day on Saturday. Personal Computing 79 ; Rt. For example, a student should be able to add, subtract, multiply and divide numbers. He can then figure prob- lems using these skills. If he then uses a calculator to do the computa- tion quickly, freeing his time to solve more complex problems, it is prob- ably of educational advantage. But first he must know the basics of math to be able to properly utilize the calculator. Few educators would argue that the learning of fundamental skills is a prerequisite to education.
Therefore, it is the responsibility of educational institutions to evaluate student's skill abilities, then facilitate the most effective means possible of helping students learn. Unfortunately, it isn't always true that basic skills are acquired in the early grades. At every grade level, including college, there is a percentage of students who can't do simple math. So, regardless of present grade level, student's skills must be diagnosed, they must be taught the concepts needed and the practice provided to help them master the skills lacked. Technological advances seen in the last decade should have been used on this serious problem.
Had education worked on developing resources to meet its needs, every student in this country ten years ago would have had access to computers and innovative, interactive programs designed to individually tutor math, Burchenal Green music, art language, problem solv- ing, etc. But educational institutions on the whole are not at the forefront of knowledge utilizing technological ad- vantages to help students learn. Nor do they command or properly allocate necessary funding. So only now are computers beginning to creep into the classroom in any significant numbers.
Operation Achievement The Monroe Classmate 88 is a welcome exception to the technolog- ical lag. It is a calculator containing seventy hardwired programs that pro- vide drill and practice problems in addition, subtraction, multiplication, division, fractions, decimals and in number concepts. Obviously de- signed with the classroom in mind, the Classmate 88 is an attractive bright yellow and beige with some green and orange keys, is durable but light weight, and is easy to learn to use. The machine is well thought out and can be utilized to provide indivi- dualized drill and practice on many skill levels in basic mathematic fundamentals.
It can be used on all grade levels where students need help in mastering basic math skills. Although the calculator abilities of the Classmate 88 are certainly useful, it is the Operation Achieve- ment mode that makes it indispensible to the class- room. Monroe's intention is not that this calculator be a teaching machine, but will reinforce the concepts the teacher has already instilled, with drills on a one to one basis.
The necessary support material for the Classmate 88 is well organized and easy to use. It is recommended that a student be limited to fifteen minutes of drill and practice a day, and that the drill be in a skill already taught to the student. Of course after a lesson in multiplication, for ex- Math is more fun when a student can practice on the Monroe Classmate But since children's skill levels are so diverse, diagnostic materials are pro- vided by Monroe. A survey test aids the teacher in determining which placement test the student should take.
The placement tests have a fixed scoring pattern for which the teacher uses the Classmate 88 to computate the grade to ascertain which of the many skill programs the student needs first. This starts the student at her own level. Once the teacher has assigned a skill level for a student, almost anyone can learn to operate the calculator. A book of flowcharts provides the easy step by step pro- cedures to be followed. The flowchart in Figure 1 is a sample of the ease which the student can work the Classmate It is important to a teacher that the students can operate the machine unassisted, freeing the teacher to work with other students.
The turn of a switch determines the number of problems to be worked on as 10,25 or infinite. If the teacher or student chooses an infinite number of problems, the student need only press the SCORE key to end the pro- gram. The date and student number will be recorded in red on the tape by using the DATE key.
Then, following the flowchart, the student will key in the program she wants to work on. Flowchart of procedures to follow to run the Multiplication of 07 program. The student must then answer the problem appearing on the tape. Here, of course, it would be nice for the student to be able to figure the answer on the calculator. Students are encouraged to work with pencil and paper before keying in their answers. If the student records the correct answer, the calculator responds with a double row of dotted lines and another problem in the same skill area.
If she gets the wrong answer, a red E for error appears on the tape. She may try as many times as she wants to get the correct answer, but will get a red E after each incorrect answer. When she has finished all the problems, she touches SCORE and is given the number and percentage of correct answers. The student's tape then becomes a diagnostic tool for the teacher. A red E appears beside all problems missed and a dotted red line is printed under any answer the machine was asked to provide.
The teacher can instantly determine trouble spots for further work, and the use of tape as hard copy is a pi us for the Classmate Figure 2 shows a sample tape for a student following the flowchart. Multiplication review problems with limits and a constant self-determined would be provided. The code for the program is on the tape "07M. She is then given a problem which she answers correctly. The second prob- lem is missed and gets a red E next to the try. She asks for help and gets the Any school without a Classmate 88 is doing a disservice to its students.
She answers numbers 3 and 4 correctly, but misses the answer to 5 twice before she gets help from the machine. It is clear that she still needs some work in multiplication with 7s. In Figure 3 the student wants to add 2 digits and 2 digits with no regrouping. No limits are needed, so the student need only press the pro- gram code ADD 2 keys.
Here she gets the first two problems correct, missing the third problem twice before she asks for the answer, then her score. The Classmate 88 contains six programs for which the teacher or student can designate the upper and lower limits of numbers to appear in the problems given and can select a constant. If red marks on the tape show that a student has trouble with sevens, all the problems in the student's next program can deal with the seven. A handy feature. When the Classmate 88 is used in this fashion, as a drill and practice device, it is in the Operation Achieve- ment mode. The seventy programs possible in Operation Achievement are as diverse as Addition of 2 digits plus 2 digits with no regrouping; Subtraction of 3 digits minus 3 digits with regrouping in units and 10's; multiplication of 1 digit x 1 digit x 1 digit; Division Review with remain- ders; limits on divisor and dividend with constant divisor option at the user's input; Equivalent Fractions; and Fraction to Decimal Conversion rounded to four decimal places.
Besides the skill levels in Addition, Subtraction, Multiplication, Division, Fractions and Decimals there are seventeen wonderful programs en- titled Number Concepts. The Classmate 88 can be used two other ways in the Operation Achieve- ment Mode. If a teacher wants to create homework problems, he need only set a switch to P and a series of problems without the answers in the skill area he designates will be gener- ated. If he wants a set of problems with answers for a test he needn't bother with the time consuming task of making up problems and figuring out the correct answers.
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These are two excellent time saving features that extend the capabilities Figure 2. Sample tapa of a Multiplication of 07 program run. As a Calculator In the Calculator mode the Class- mate 88 has the ability to do not only the mixed operations of addition, subtraction, multiplication and divi- sion, but work problems with three open parentheses at any time.
This is a great feature for the classroom. As with many calculators, the Classmate 88 is able to use the first number in a multiplication or division problem as a constant factor, which is a help in practicing those time honored times tables. Figure 7 demonstrates the few keys needed to do multiplication and division with 7 as a factor. IndespensibleTool Although the calculator abilities of the Classmate 88 are certainly useful, it is the Operation Achieve- ment mode that makes it indespen- sible to the classroom. Educators have not come up with a better means of learning the basic skills than drill and practice, but this is not an activity teachers relish, nor does it make the best use of their time.
Drill and practice is ideally suited to the com- puter and the Monroe Classmate 88 does an ace job of it, providing an endless stream of computational problems geared to a specific task and level, and reinforcing with in- stantaneous feedback by continuing if the answer is correct or making the student try again or ask for help for incorrect problems. Figure 3. Sample tape uaing the Addition 02 program. These reasons could be cited for not getting a Classmate 88, instead dreaming of Plato, Turtle or the Dynabook in the hands of Everychild.
It's a nice dream, but this isn't tomorrow. And while micro- computers are beginning to enter schools with wonderful CAI capabili- ty and potential, none of them can now do what the Classmate 88 not only does but has done tried and tested from Any school without a Classmate 88 is doing a disservice to its students.
It is also possible for schools to modify the machine for use with handicapped students. For more information on the Classmate 88 contact Peter S. One of the local teachers utilized it with great success with her elemen- tary school class and provided the following evaluation. The students in my class were able to use the Monroe Calculator 88 independently, either alone or in small groups in our learning center, which made it an invaluable aid to me as a teacher. All students were eager to use the Classmate 88 when it was first intro- duced to them and this enthusiasm continued even after it became a more familiar part of the classroom.
It appears that the Classmate 88 helps develop a positive attitude on the part of children towards indepen- dent work in mathematics. Using 7 as a factor In multiplication and division, the tape shows how few keys need be pushed. A Paper Computer? Are you having trouble keeping the right nuts and bolts in stock? Since even o simple mistake can cost you time and money, a good inventory system should do more than just count parts.
It should tell you exactly what you need, when you need it, where to get it, and how much it will cost. It lists part number, description, quantity on hand, vendor, cost, selling price, optional pricing, usage levels for previous month, present month, and yeor-to-date, and much more. When quantity on hand items reach minimum levels, the System Seven compiles an automatic reorder list. This list can be generated by spe- cific vendor as well as a complete listing of all materials to be ordered.
V2 In addition to the item listing, the In- f, ventory System Seven "bill of materials" provides you with o complete inventory of items used in the manufacture of subassemblies and complete products. It also contains other cost items such as labor costs, total raw materials costs, and miscellaneous costs. An integral dual mini-floppy memory gives you an additional K of memory and makes inventory control fast and efficient. The System Seven will interface with any industry standard CRT, and you have the option of both a "daisy wheel" word processor for high quality document prepa- ration and a dot matrix printer for high speed production.
The System Seven can be expanded to handle all your data processing needs or you can select one of nine other MSI systems now available for business, industrial, scientific, educational, and personal applications. If you need more than just a nuts and bolts inventory system, we hove more informa- tion about how the Inventory System Seven can solve your pro- blems economically. Tom Badgett Interesting comments on Tl's and printers. One of the first things a com- puterist learns when he starts pro- gramming is that hard copy is all but a necessity for program editing and structuring.
The second thing he learns is that he has to pay really big bucks for a printer with reasonable speed, versatility and good looking print. Because of its mechanical nature, the computer- printer still is one of the most expensive com- ponents of any computer system.
Figure on spending anywhere from 1 K to 3K dollars for a decent unit. Even given these price considera- tions, however, there are some good buys and some not so good buys on the market today. The is a Receive Only RO model while the is designed as a communications ter- minal and contains a keyboard, a larger character buffer and answer- back circuitry.
The printing mech- J. Tom Badgett, Albemarle St. WV Bluefield, anisms of the two printers are identical, though the available op- tions aren't the same. The biggest difference seems to be that the is not available with a parallel interface. Features and Options For most microcomputer applica- tions the is probably the logical choice.
That price might be enough to make some The standard features and available options for the TI are also very impres- sive. Compare those features to other printers generally offered to small system The TI In "operating position. The standard features and avail- able options for the TI are also very impressive. The basic printer is set up for columns, but has a fully adjustable tractor mechanism which will take narrow forms such as mailing labels down to about 3 inches.
It contains a self-test feature which will print the standard char- acter set in an offset "barber pole" pattern. That is, it prints the entire A set of switches on the front panel put the printer on or off-line, align the paper up or down in small increments , reset an error condition, cause a line feed or advance to the top of the form. Additionally there is a set of DIP switches under the front cover which select the baud rate from to 9, Baud in the standard config- uration , parity checking, automatic line feed override and automatic perforation skip override.
NOTE: when using these programming switches you have to turn off the power momentarily, then back on after the switches are set to effect the new programmed configuration. There is also a program- mable forms length resident in the standard printer. The default forms length is 66 lines, but under software control you may specify anything from 3 to lines. Also standard is software or hardware switchable line spacing, either six lines per inch or eight lines per inch. You don't have to pay extra for software control, either.
Interfacing As previously mentioned, the RS interface comes standard. It includes switchable baud rates to and standard handshaking sig- nals. A number of interface options are available. The one I use is what Tl used to call the "Centronics Compat- ible" interface. A factory engineer tells me they no longer may use that term, and, indeed, assured me that the parallel interface was no longer compatible with the standard Cen- tronics interface. Such is not the case, however, as the parallel card in my OSI Challenger was designed for the Centronics printer and it works well with theTI printer.
As further proof, I was telling a Radio Shack dealer recently about the model and he became very interested. I placed the parallel Model next to his Radio Shack and removed the parallel cable from his Model printer and plugged it into the Tl machine. The only change required was to turn on the automatic line feed feature as the Radio Shack printer software doesn't send an automatic line feed with the carriage return.
When considering a parallel inter- face for the Model one must be sure to specify the proper interface, as there are a couple of choices. I called the factory and was told the same thing by a company engineer. The RS Inter- face comes on the even if you specify current loop or parallel inter- face options.
Be careful when ordering a TI 0. A few national distributors are order- ing the printer in large quantities and are offering attractive discounts. These printers are being supplied in standard configurations only: RS- , upper case. Some options, such as the forms controls, may not be installed in the field. Make sure you're getting a printer con- figured the way you want to use it before you buy at a discount. Also available are RS inter- faces with line buffering and Current Loop with character or line buffering. Other options include international character sets, programmable and switchable forms length, compressed and expanded print, Lower Case, tear bar, paper catcher, stand, etc.
Note that the standard TI uses a high quality 9x7 matrix. The company says it produces excellent results on up to six copies, though by the sixth copy the letters are some- what smeared. Up to four copies an original and three carbons are quite good, however. With a parallel inter- face the can print a continuous This print ins is an example of 10 Charac- ters per inch horizontally and 6 lines per inch vertically.
The printing can be compressed both horizontally and verti- cal 1 Y. This, printing is an example of JO Charac- ters per inch horizontally and 8 lines per inch vertically. The printing can be compressed both horizontally and verti- cal 1 v. This printing is an example of The printing can be conpressed both horizontally and verti- cally. The printer electronics are housed in an enclosed cage at the rear.
The cards are what I'd call military-type construction: heavy lands, solder masked and coated with a heavy protective layer. The top of the card cage is padded and fits firmly against the tops of the circuit boards, holding them in place. Parallel and RS circuitry is included in the unit shown. An Inside view of the TI printer. The lever on the right of the print head rail adjusts head clearance for various forms thicknesses. The DIP switches, forms length switches and print compression controls are visible in the lower center of the picture.
Front panel control switches are on the right. That's 60 full character lines in a minute, or up to lines per minute if the lines are 10 characters or less. You can operate the printer with the RS interface and no handshaking at a continuous Baud, slightly re- ducing its printing speed.
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The printer is a joy to use. The software programming features provide for easy design of printer output. The software programming features pro- vide for easy design of printer output. The is quiet below 60 db, the company says, with the supplied plastic sound baffle. It operates noticeably quieter than the Cen- tronics and it is worlds away from my ASR 33 Teletype in noise produc- tion.
One reason the has such good printing speed is the fact that the print head tabs to the next printing position rather than moving at the slower standard printing rate. If you're printing full lines the head seems to sweep back and forth, printing in both directions in a smooth, continuous action.
If, how- ever, you are printing a chart or other columnar information, the head leaps to the next printing position. It is interesting to watch the head try to decide whether to move right-to-left or left-to-right. Service and Reliability I've only used the printer a short time at this writing, but company supplied figures on reliability and time to repair look promising. Average time to repair the printer, including the print head which is merely replaced in the field is 30 minutes. Several service options are available. Some Tl dealers pick up service themselves, either through service contracts or on-site service at an hourly rate.
Also available is depot main- tenance, where you pay a lower service rate and are required to ship the printer to Tl for in-house service in the event of difficulty. This service won't cost you anything additional beyond shipping. Tl will also service your printer on an hourly basis.
Presumably circuit cards and other repair parts could be purchased from the company should an end user wish to attempt his own service using the maintenance manual provided with the unit. The construction of the Model is rugged, compact and high quality. As the accompanying photographs show, the electronics components are housed in a completely enclosed card cage, cooled by a muffin fan. The top of the enclosure is padded with foam and presses firmly against the top of the circuit cards, ensuring that they will remain in place even under conditions of vibration or when moving the printer to a different loca- tion.
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